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周運籌 Nathan：《藝術世界》雜誌的編輯，從來沒有停止過畫畫。用 “奶粉” 這個名字出版了一系列畫集和手做的限量版 zine。
創作總是孤獨的，在周運籌小小的家與工作室裡，堆積了眾多他的作品和手製小玩意。雖然都不一定那麼的精緻，但由自己的雙手親自製作了一些可以永恆的東西，讓他覺得自己真實存在於這個世界。
“喝茶受到誰的影響？”
Nathan：因為我是廣東來的，每家每戶都會泡茶，甚至很難喝的那種普洱茶，哈哈。但是這是那邊人與人溝通的方式，聊聊天，就自然熟了。到了廈門之後這種習慣就更加深了，每天起來不喝咖啡，也很少吃早飯，覺得這樣自己就更清醒。
“覺得什麼樣的作品才 ‘夠勁’”？
Nathan：其實這個跟夠不夠爆炸沒什麼關係，我更喜歡能準確地表達自己的藝術方式，這也是我後來不太拍照了的原因，我覺得畫畫才能更加真誠地表達我自己，這樣就是 “夠勁”。
“什麼元素是在你創作時揮之不去的？”
Nathan：我特別喜歡幾何圖形，圓的，長條的，立方體，我喜歡用不同的幾何圖形營造出和現實不同的空間感。
“什麼緣由讓你開始做自己的 zine？”
Nathan：剛開始我就是不想和別人做一樣的東西，而且自己動手也能省點錢，另外這種真實的紙張拿在手裡的感覺肯定不一樣，很特別。我都是自己複印，剪裁卡紙，也經常戳到手。但是其實也沒有那麼複雜，我經常看著電影就做出一本來了。在網上肯定看不到真實的紙的尺寸，螢幕的顏色也都會有差別，我是一個特別老派的人，特別喜歡翻看紙張的感覺，我的每一本 zine 都會經過自己特別的加工，我希望每一個拿到它的人都能獲取自己不同的感受。
“你作品裡的你，和平時你展示給別人的你是不是同一個人？”
Nathan：不是。我平時還是一個挺為別人着想的人，但我是處女座，挺龜毛的。作品裡的我又比較分裂，我的精神比較黑暗，所以畫畫是我特別好的一個釋放和 “同自我和解” 的方式。
“你不開心的時候，創造的作品更多嗎？”
Nathan：我不開心的時候畫，我開心的時候更要畫畫。不開心的時候更像是一種發洩，就像很多人要游泳和跑步一樣。但開心和平靜的時候可能畫得更好。我不是那種特別急於把自己的憤怒發洩出來的人，因為你發洩的太多了，可能你的作品就沒那麼客觀了。
“有沒有特定的工作習慣？”
Nathan：我在工作的時候必須要放音樂，或者一部電影，總之有聲音就可以。我還是挺沒安全感的。我覺得每一個創作人都一樣，你在創作的過程中必定是孤獨的。
“你畫人像的時候最重要的一個因素是什麼？喜歡畫陌生人嗎？”
Nathan：眼睛。你可能並不需要把一個人畫得很像，但是需要把他的眼神畫出來。我特別喜歡坐在公園的長椅上觀察，人群裡總有一個人特別奇怪，可能是他走路的姿勢也可能是他特別的形態，這都是我特別願意用心去記錄的東西。
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