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周運籌 Nathan:《藝術世界》雜誌的編輯,從來沒有停止過畫畫。用 “奶粉” 這個名字出版了一系列畫集和手做的限量版 zine。

創作總是孤獨的,在周運籌小小的家與工作室裡,堆積了眾多他的作品和手製小玩意。雖然都不一定那麼的精緻,但由自己的雙手親自製作了一些可以永恆的東西,讓他覺得自己真實存在於這個世界。

 

“喝茶受到誰的影響?”

Nathan:因為我是廣東來的,每家每戶都會泡茶,甚至很難喝的那種普洱茶,哈哈。但是這是那邊人與人溝通的方式,聊聊天,就自然熟了。到了廈門之後這種習慣就更加深了,每天起來不喝咖啡,也很少吃早飯,覺得這樣自己就更清醒。

 

“覺得什麼樣的作品才 ‘夠勁’”?

Nathan:其實這個跟夠不夠爆炸沒什麼關係,我更喜歡能準確地表達自己的藝術方式,這也是我後來不太拍照了的原因,我覺得畫畫才能更加真誠地表達我自己,這樣就是 “夠勁”。

 

“什麼元素是在你創作時揮之不去的?”

Nathan:我特別喜歡幾何圖形,圓的,長條的,立方體,我喜歡用不同的幾何圖形營造出和現實不同的空間感。

 

“什麼緣由讓你開始做自己的 zine?”

Nathan:剛開始我就是不想和別人做一樣的東西,而且自己動手也能省點錢,另外這種真實的紙張拿在手裡的感覺肯定不一樣,很特別。我都是自己複印,剪裁卡紙,也經常戳到手。但是其實也沒有那麼複雜,我經常看著電影就做出一本來了。在網上肯定看不到真實的紙的尺寸,螢幕的顏色也都會有差別,我是一個特別老派的人,特別喜歡翻看紙張的感覺,我的每一本 zine 都會經過自己特別的加工,我希望每一個拿到它的人都能獲取自己不同的感受。

 

“你作品裡的你,和平時你展示給別人的你是不是同一個人?”

Nathan:不是。我平時還是一個挺為別人着想的人,但我是處女座,挺龜毛的。作品裡的我又比較分裂,我的精神比較黑暗,所以畫畫是我特別好的一個釋放和 “同自我和解” 的方式。

 

“你不開心的時候,創造的作品更多嗎?”

Nathan:我不開心的時候畫,我開心的時候更要畫畫。不開心的時候更像是一種發洩,就像很多人要游泳和跑步一樣。但開心和平靜的時候可能畫得更好。我不是那種特別急於把自己的憤怒發洩出來的人,因為你發洩的太多了,可能你的作品就沒那麼客觀了。

 

“有沒有特定的工作習慣?”

Nathan:我在工作的時候必須要放音樂,或者一部電影,總之有聲音就可以。我還是挺沒安全感的。我覺得每一個創作人都一樣,你在創作的過程中必定是孤獨的。

 

“你畫人像的時候最重要的一個因素是什麼?喜歡畫陌生人嗎?”

Nathan:眼睛。你可能並不需要把一個人畫得很像,但是需要把他的眼神畫出來。我特別喜歡坐在公園的長椅上觀察,人群裡總有一個人特別奇怪,可能是他走路的姿勢也可能是他特別的形態,這都是我特別願意用心去記錄的東西。

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